Come on AS we both know you cant use science to explain the event that brought the universe to be.All that can be said by anyone is that it happened.You can say that you dont believe in a creator and I can say that I do..Thats as far as the discussion can go.There is no discussion to be had.Its just what we believe.You can share your reasons with me and I can share mine with you.The proof does not exist in this universe it exist some place else if it exist at all.Maybe better said the tools needed to explain it dont exist here.
Originally Posted by CCCC
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
As long as the Theist keep making their less then logical positive claims, The Atheist does not have to make or defend a positive claim.
AS - OK, then deal with my null (negative) hypotheis. There is not an atheist.
We do not have a complete explanation at this time. That doesn't mean we never will. The Higgs Boson was first proposes back in the 1960's, but it's existence wasn't proven until 2013, about 50 years later. Newtons theory of Gravity was first published in 1660, it took us 250 years to move from there to Einsteins Theory of Relativity.
As an example, perhaps Krass is right with his hypothesis of a universe from nothing, but if he is, it could be another 50 to 250 years before we have some kind of experimental proof.
We don't know but are looking, is different from saying we "can't" know. The Can't just want to stop all inquiry because the next discovery may contradict their faith.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
