Originally Posted by GeorgiaBoy
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by GeorgiaBoy
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by eyeball
Hatred is a poison that destroys us from within, producing bitterness that eats away at our hearts and minds. This is why the Scriptures tell us not to let a “root of bitterness” spring up in our hearts (Hebrews 12:15). Hatred also


More dodging the question by spouting Bible verses....

Come on Doc, take a step in the direction of morality, and admit it immoral knock up your daughters and blame them for it.


And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters. 31And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth: 32Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. 33And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. 34And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. 35And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. 36Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father. 37And the firstborn bare a son, and called his name Moab: the same is the father of the Moabites unto this day. 38And the younger, she also bare a son, and called his name Benammi: the same is the father of the children of Ammon unto this day.

Where in that passage exactly does Lott blame his daughters?

This is a prime example of dishonesty. Misrepresenting something for what I perceive as an addiction to debate.


Think about it for a moment. I know that might be difficult for you, but please try.

Lott was so drunk he couldn't recognize his own daughters, but he could still get it up?

I call BS. Or is it more likely that a primitive goat herder knocked up his daughters, and concocted a story about it to blame them?

And this was after he offered them up to a rape mob.


Ground control to Major AS.

I'm sure many could coorberate the fact that one could be so drunk that sex was still possible. Do you really mean to suggest that people do not go to bed with someone in a drunken stupor, have sex with them, and do not know who it is they wake up with or where they are? Get real.

The text says that he saw that the whole plain was on fire. Who do you suggest that Lott thought he needed to concoct a story for?

Besides, you know the rest of the story. God recorded an accurate account. Don't be so dishonest as to not know how God looked upon that sin, and how He reacted to the Moabites and Amnonites.


So drunk he could not recognize his own daughters. I've never been that drunk. What kind of a BAC would that require?

As for God recording an accurate account, all we have is copies of copies of copies...... We have no originals, and many of the stories were oral traditions, which are susceptible to great changes, long before they were put to paper. As a result you have no real evidence that "God recorded an accurate account", that's just your assertion. We now know many accounts are not accurate, such as the entire story of the Exodus, and the creation myths, and the story of Lott is in the same book as the creation myths.

Last edited by antelope_sniper; 08/29/15.

You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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