Originally Posted by George_De_Vries_3rd
Originally Posted by Gus
Originally Posted by George_De_Vries_3rd
Originally Posted by Gus
bottom line is that conditions remain as they always were. that is: we don't know from whence we came, where we are, and least of all where we are headed next. I think the Great Mystery has taken all of our mindsets into consideration as the game moves forward.

or as some Buddhists are fond of saying: just keep paddling or swimming. the far shore is out there.


Good day Gus. In regard to this comment above, you should probably just keep it in "first person singular."


I don't even know what your comment means. but probably my daughter does, being a ph.d in language arts. but, she might not know either?

besides listening to audibles in the background, I'm attempting to offer plausible discussion.

my belief is that the combined greek & Egyptian theology is so in conflict with the Hebraic traditions that we might not ever find common agreement and solid ground.

without considering the input of extraterrestrials as important components of humans advance forward we are leaving out important details of our past.

from moving forward from cave man to visiting the moon, Mars and beyond is no small detail that shouldn't be overlooked.


Sorry, I didn't mean to make it was obtuse. In your first statement in the quote here, you use, "'we' don't know from whence 'we' came or where 'we' are or where 'we' are going." That's not true of Christians. You assumed and then generalized liberally. I meant replace the "we" with an "I."


the first thing I have to do to respond is to recover the webpage. but, no apologies needed. I did take a course in English 101, but didn't follow up that much. I figure no one knows for sure, but I might be wrong? for those who do know, I wish they'd tell us more, and not quote a bunch of holy book words that has been translated more than once.

Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Gus
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by BarryC
Putin and Hillary are great examples of living by Atheist values.


Hillary was raised Methodist. She was a member of the Senate Prayer group, and regularly attends Foundry United Methodist Church in Washington.

Vladimir Putin is a Russian Orthodox Christian.

That pair belongs to you, not the Atheist.


lol. word on the street is that the Russian Orthodox Church is staunchly behind the Vlad man.

but the question remains about consciouslness, specifically human consciousness and why and how can there be so many different gods over the aeons?

why don't we just settle on one? jesus mohammed, Buddha,krishna, ganesh, Great Spirit, et.al. it doesn't matter all that much, as long as oxygen remains in the air. isn't one god about as good as another?



Gus, lets assume for a moment there is a god. If he can't even effectively communicate his existence to us, he's not much of a god.

As for all religions being equal, that's just bunk. The more wrong actions, and the more immoral actions a religion causes it's follower to commit, the worse the religion.
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Gus
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by BarryC
Putin and Hillary are great examples of living by Atheist values.


Hillary was raised Methodist. She was a member of the Senate Prayer group, and regularly attends Foundry United Methodist Church in Washington.

Vladimir Putin is a Russian Orthodox Christian.

That pair belongs to you, not the Atheist.


lol. word on the street is that the Russian Orthodox Church is staunchly behind the Vlad man.

but the question remains about consciouslness, specifically human consciousness and why and how can there be so many different gods over the aeons?

why don't we just settle on one? jesus mohammed, Buddha,krishna, ganesh, Great Spirit, et.al. it doesn't matter all that much, as long as oxygen remains in the air. isn't one god about as good as another?



Gus, lets assume for a moment there is a god. If he can't even effectively communicate his existence to us, he's not much of a god.

As for all religions being equal, that's just bunk. The more wrong actions, and the more immoral actions a religion causes it's follower to commit, the worse the religion.


there seems to be different qualities of religious understanding in your cosmos? and that may well be true.

the North American Church has a devout following, but not a very large following. and that is fine, also.