Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Gus
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by krp
You followed religion, men and man's words.

None of that can start to explain God.

I'll tell you straight up God can't be proved. I've already said that numerous times.

God can't be described, explained, calculated, proven in a petri dish or bible. The closest it can come is anecdotal.

I abandoned the popular anecdotes because of the fallacies... but you can't argue against God, based on those fallacies, with other fallacies.

I admit I already knew your story by seeing it play out many times. Folks putting faith in church and the pulpit, and when church and 'man' failed your faith, God did too.

I only continued this conversation from that other thread to get your testimony. Of course I didn't have proof you were baptized as a christian, which was the bait, but I knew you were. I also know you are holding something back on your need to disprove God. Tell it when you want or never.

Heaven and hell is anecdotal also, so see ya around... lol

Kent


I never said I was Baptized, I said I attended Church.

However, here is the most important thing you said:

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I'll tell you straight up God can't be proved. I've already said that numerous times.

God can't be described, explained, calculated, proven in a petri dish or bible. The closest it can come is anecdotal.


So you admit there is not evidence for your God. In addition, you can't even define him, which would be the very first step in presenting a logical argument for him. Belief despite a total lack of evidence. We have a word for that. It's Faith.


as a wholly untrained laymen, that sounds just like the ancient goat-herders gathered under the shade of various oak trees, discussing the issues, as their herds grazed upon the available grass.

the ancient Rabbi's deduced long ago that no-one has any hope of understanding the mind of God, whatsoever.


Actually Gus, there's more to it then that. It's a tool the preachers us to keep the faithful from questioning some of the outlandish stuff in the Bible. So when someone asks why God did some immoral act the preachers can just claim, "No one knows the mind of God", or "He works in mysterious ways". It's really nothing more then a way to quell inquiry.


well, it is a good way to put to rest the very strange notion that someone does know the mind of god. can you imagine?

what turns me off, is blaming everything bad that happens on the actions of a Great Satan (the US, Europe, or Israel?) and not on the One True Living God? I mean, let's get real. are there two Gods, a good one and a bad one? I think not. there's only one, and both good & bad things happens to both good & bad people.

I suspect God (the extraterrestrials?) created this social dynamic of breeding males & females, and then left us alone to our own devices. but, that's just my opinion, and most certainly I could be wrong.

the group needs to hold the center, and continue to discuss the various issues. thanks for your input. it's invaluable in the pursuit of the better understanding of who we are, where we are, and where we might be headed next. (we don't much give a bit of concern as to where we were in the past).