Originally Posted by JoeBob
Originally Posted by ConradCA
If Russia is so good then how come they’re losing the war? Their military has performed abysmally.

At the start of the war most military analysts thought they could easily defeat and occupy Ukraine and the only danger was intervention by NATO. Putin eliminated that danger by bribing Biden with millions. Remember when Quisling Biden said “Don’t worry Putin we’re not going to fight you in Ukraine”, he earned the millions in BBB bribes Putin paid him. I expect the reason Putin didn’t invade Ukraine while Trump was President is because he told them that US and NATO would fight them. Biden enabled Putin’s attack on Ukraine. Elections matter.

Now that the Russian army has been proven to be a paper B tiger, it’s time for NATO forces to kick Russia out of Ukraine. We should mobilize NATO to enter Ukraine and tell Putin to withdraw or be kicked out. Quisling Biden won’t do this because he has sold us out.


They’re not losing the war. They’ve take 25% of the country and the only parts they said they wanted from the start. They’ve killed in excess of probably about 350k Ukrainians while losing around 50k or less of their own troops. They depleted the entire arsenal of Nato of certain key things like 155 shells and severely degraded the overall arsenals of several of the key European members.

All of this while being outnumbered by Ukrainian forces to the tune of about 3-1 for most of the war and relying heavily upon territorial militias in the Russian regions of Ukraine.

JoeBob spot on...the Russians began this SMO with the hope of convincing NATO that it was prepared to use force of arms to defend against an existential threat (Ukraine membership in NATO) and protect it's citizens in Eastern Ukraine. Hoping this would initiate negotiations, which it did, but the West refused to allow Ukraine to accept any terms. This initial incursion was seen as a sign of Russian weakness-BIG mistake! Russia has continued with this economy of force tactic, meat grinder strategy, to the tune of as many as 350,000 dead Ukrainians.

From the very beginning Putin has proceeded cautiously and deliberatlely , not just to limit his own casualties but also not interested in the same for Ukraine.
They had roughly 190,000 active duty at the start now they have at least 750,000 which is projected to be 1.2 million before the end of the year. Russian arms factories are producing 365 24/7 and Russia has a mere 2% inflation rate and stronger economy.

Wagner has been redeployed and Putin is more popular than ever....only media propagandized sheep, brainwashed Cold War boomers who think Russia is still the USSR, the blissfully ignorant who couldn't find Ukraine on a map think Ukraine has a ghost of a chance at winning this conflict.

MAGA!
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Last edited by TreeMutt; 07/14/23.

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