Originally Posted by rainshot
If Russia only wanted Ukraine's landmass it would've taken it. Russia wants the Parts of Ukraine that are traditional Russian speaking and have been tortured and murdered by Ukrainians for decades. Russia will not stand for Ukraine joining NATO and told them that long ago but it was at our urging that they tried to join anyway. The pentagon wants to surround Russia with NATO missiles for an eventual war. It's actually the other way around. There's nothing Europe would like more than taking Russia's land and resources for their own.
Ukraine has been used as a money laundering bank by us and Europe for years. It has always been corrupt but Obama and Biden have taken it to a entire new level. We have admitted to having many bio weapons labs in Ukraine and Russia has the proof of it now. This whole war stinks. So many have died needlessly on both sides that it is a sorry testament to our greed and corruption it must be stopped.
The only way you are going to be allowed to hold on to what's yours is by the "aggressive use of force". Zelensky is a puppet of Washington. We put him in power by the use of a Coup we engineered. Victoria Newland has admitted it. We instigated this conflict as a proxy war with Russia and we've lost it. The only thing that remains to be seen is how many more Ukrainians we will allow to die for our malfeasance.

^^^^ rainshot has it right. ^^^^

Should be the end of this thread, but it won't be.

Last edited by SupFoo; 11/22/23.