lol. ok toot's sock puppet


Originally Posted by tdoyka
unlike you, i am rooting for Ukraine to win this war. unlike you, i refuse to applaud Putin. unlike you, i don't tolerate Nazi or the communism or authoritarian Putin pukes. all i do is tell the truth about vehicles and airpower, which the Russians had but squandered it in the taking of Kiev and on the Kharkiv Offensive by giving up their tanks, artillery and other military vehicles to Ukraine. unlike you, i'll glady give military equipment to Ukraine to fight Russia. Russia will eventually lose this war. Putin is going to draft 300,000 men later in the year to go to Ukraine. Putin will give arms and early tanks (T53 and 62), no food, ammo that doesn't work and God knows what else. 300,000 untrained boys go to slaughter. 300,000 boys are either wounded or dead. and that is just one year. one of these days, Putin will either be dead from natural causes or there will be another Civil War and Putin will be dead.

in case you are wondering, i am a Independent Right leaning Constitutionalist that used to be a Republican, but after McCain's run, which i did not vote for McCain and Obummer, i left the Republican Party to become a Independent. i voted for Trump twice and next year it will be thrice. the money going into Ukraine should be stopped, but the military equipment will continue.



https://www.sandboxx.us/news/ukraine-is-finally-getting-atacms-the-weapon-that-can-change-the-war/
UKRAINE IS FINALLY GETTING ATACMS, THE WEAPON THAT CAN CHANGE THE WAR
UKRAINE
BY STAVROS ATLAMAZOGLOU
SEPTEMBER 26, 2023


The Ukrainian military will be receiving an advanced missile system that could change the war.

According to reports coming out of the White House, President Joe Biden has given the Pentagon the green light to supply Ukraine with an unspecified number of MGM-140 Army Tactical Missile Systems, or ATACMS.

With the Ukrainian counteroffensive gaining momentum, the potential delivery of ATACMS to the Ukrainian military would enable additional deep strikes against the faltering Russian logistical system and other strategic targets.

TIME FOR THE ATACMS
Last week, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky visited the United States for the second time since the Russian invasion of his country. Although this time he didn’t address Congress, Zelensky managed to persuade President Biden of the need to send the Ukrainian military ATACMS munitions.

Ukraine has been trying to get the ballistic missile system for months. The White House’s green light, thus, is a milestone for Ukraine. The U.S. had been hesitant to send the munitions for fear of provoking a Russian escalation and because it only has around 3,000 ATACMS.

The number of ATACMS munitions the U.S. will send to Ukraine will firstly depend on the number of deliveries: If the U.S. is tilting toward one big delivery, then the number of munitions might be smaller compared to a scenario in which the Pentagon sends several waves of ATACMS over the next months.

Another consideration is the status of Ukraine’s artillery arsenal. Ukraine is going through several thousand artillery shells – particularly 155mm rounds – daily and between 150,000 and 200,000 a month. Even though the Pentagon alone has sent Kyiv more than two million 155mm shells, the U.S. and the West are having a very hard time meeting the Ukrainian artillery’s needs. Sending ATACMS munitions would slightly ease the need to send seemingly inexhaustible batches of rounds to Ukraine.

To be sure, the Ukrainians won’t be using precious ATACMS rounds against most targets that 155mm rounds are being used for, but the Ukrainian military could use ATACMS against high-value targets that are also within range of its 155mm guns.


A FORMIDABLE WEAPON
ATACMS testing
Soldiers from the 3rd Battalion, 321st Field Artillery Regiment of the 18th Field Artillery Brigade out of Fort Bragg NC, visited the White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico to conduct reliability tests of early versions of the Army Tactical Missile System, December 2021. (Photo by John Hamilton/White Sands Missile Range Public Affairs)
The ATACMS is a series of short-range, surface-to-surface ballistic missiles that have been in service for more than three decades.

Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) started working on what would eventually become the ATACMS back in the 1970s as part of the Assault Breaker program with the goal of developing deep-strike munitions. The U.S. military first used them in anger against the forces of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein during the First Gulf War in 1991.

The U.S. will likely send either the Block 1 or Block 1A ATACMS to Ukraine.

Weighting almost 3,700 pounds, the older Block 1 version has a range of up to 103 miles and can carry a single warhead of up to 1,250 pounds. The main available Block 1 warhead is essentially a big cluster munition that can pack almost 1,000 M74 bomblets that are designed to kill and maim enemy infantry and destroy weapon systems through blast and fragmentation.

The newer Block 1A version has a similar weight but a much longer range which depends on the warhead it packs. It can either carry a cluster warhead with 300 M74 bomblets for a range of 186 miles or a unitary high explosive 350-pound warhead for a range of 168 miles.


The M57A1 Army Tactical Missile System (ATACMS) missile is fired over the cab of an M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket System launcher, June 2012. (U.S. Army photo)
Cluster munitions have proven extremely effective on the ground, and even the Russian military leadership is warning about the danger. An ATACMS Block 1 strike against a concentrated large Russian force could completely wipe it out and stop an offensive or counteroffensive in its tracks.

On the other hand, a Block 1A with a high explosive unitary warhead can take out a whole Russian command and control element or targets of similar importance in a single strike.

In the current battlefield, Block 1 ATACMS munitions can reach almost all of Russian-occupied Ukraine. The longer-ranged Block A1 ATACMS missiles can also reach the southern parts of the Crimean Peninsula, as well as portions of Russia.

ATACMS munitions are solid-propellant fueled and have internal GPS systems to ensure pinpoint accuracy.

The ATACMS can be fired by either the M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS) or the M270 Multiple Launch Rocket System (MLRS). The Ukrainian military has used both the M142 HIMARS and M270 MLRS to great effect in the war, taking out a considerable amount of Russian logistical nodes, fortified positions, troop concentrations, important infrastructure, and high-value targets.