Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by Alan_C
Ukraine just shot down 3 Russian jets Friday !!! For being the underdog, they are kicking butt !!

Lots of speculation on the system used to splash those jets.

Patriot says the wind, F-16/AMRAAM says the rain.

Lots of speculation what new monster hunts Orc jets.
There's no documentation of that. More "Ghost of Kiev" and "Snake Island".

Merry Christmas to the Putin Pufters:

From THE WIZARD:



Now we’ve seen a concerted effort to sell some kind of phantom Patriot shootdowns of Russian jets. I believe they’re up to something like 6 Su-30/34s shot down so far in the past week. In truth, only a single one was confirmed downed a week ago, and most likely by friendly fire, as there is no evidence whatsoever of an enemy shootdown, particularly given where it fell, near Crimea and too far for any realistic Ukrainian AD shootdowns. Yes, Patriot could theoretically reach at its absolute limit, but it would have to be sitting right on the Russian border near the Dnieper and, probability-wise, is not particularly plausible.

The rest of the Su-30/34 shootdowns were just total hoaxes, as all aircraft returned to their bases. That’s not to mention only a single photo of a crashed plane surfaced—the Su-34 from earlier—which proves the point.