Originally Posted by tdoyka
Originally Posted by dassa
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
The left seems to predicate their absolute belief in a Ukrainian victory on the fact that Russia still has not captured Kiev. Imagine if Kiev was never the goal but merely a feint at the outset that didn’t work….except to fool the retards who, after a year and a half, are still unblinkingly staring at Kiev waiting for something to happen while the country burns and crumbles around them.

They fall to acknowledge their first mistake in all of this and have instead built the foundation of their argument in support of this clustefuck on the false belief that Russia couldn’t “take” Kiev….they continue to then reinforce the bullshit notion that Ukraine must be winning since Kiev hasn’t been captured…that’s blossomed into the ridiculous idea that the Ukrainian conscript is the “finest soldier in the world” 😂😂. If you exclude the drunken rapists, drunken criminals and drunken black market profiteers there might be a few decent soldiers there.
The only disagreement I have is, I think the feint to Kiev did work. Its purpose I believe, was to draw troops away from the east, so the Russians could destroy the Ukraine army in detail.

P.s. Like everyone else here, I haven't participated in any Russian military strategy meetings. So the above is just my speculation.




yes, it was fake to take Kiev........said Putin puppet.

let us see, the VDV lost 25 - 30% of men of taking Hostomel airport. by the hunderds of BMP's, BTR'S, tanks, trucks and others lay dead on the road to Kiev, the number of dead is guesstimated heavy, this is from 30,000 Russian soldiers who battled for Kiev. the Russians went on fighting till April 2, 2022, then they abandoned Kiev, Chernihiv and Sumy Oblasts. instead of taking Kiev, the Russians decided to battle eastern offensive. then the Ukrainians' did a Thunder Run and retook Kharkiv and the Russian decided to give up Kherson. but they (or rather Wagner Forces) Bakhmut. yes they did, but at a cost of horrible casualties and it did nothing to stop the war.
Meanwhile, Ukraine lost 90% of their AD, 90% of their airfields in the initial encounter.


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