Originally Posted by cv540
Originally Posted by Pete E
Originally Posted by norm99
for the other idoit a 9mm will kill a bull SHOT PLACEMENT we regularly do cows and steers with a 22 cal,to the brain , body shots do not work.
norm


A few years back we had a bull escape from a cattle market in a small rural town. The animal went a balistic and could not be caught up safely, so the police were called and they responded with an Armed Response Unit.

One or more LEO's then shot the animal over a dozen times with their 9mm MP5's. This went on for several minutes with the bull charging about the place before it finally fell.

As you say, shot placement is everything..



Yep. Typical 9mm police load is a hollowpoint, which will probably not have great penetration on a bull muscle.

Head shots or spine shots would work, but a bit difficult if it is running around, and if you miss, that round has to go somewhere.

So lots of shots to the chest where they won't over-penetrate kind of makes sense.


No, it doesn't make any sense at all.


Originally Posted by Mannlicher
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