Originally Posted by jaguartx


The truth is the truth, with or without the Bible.


heaven and hell exist in your mind only because you read it in a book,
or you started believing someone who told you those places exist.

Originally Posted by Thunderstick

The death and resurrection story from the very beginning was shared on the basis of fact.


So for christians the resurrection of Jesus is not based on their FAITH / BELIEF..?
If christians knew it as FACT , why would they need to trust in their FAITH..?

def. of faith: = strong belief based on spiritual conviction rather than proof.

PROOF is needed to demonstrate a claim as FACT ..Thus FAITH cannot be FACT based,
because facts require proof - if you have proof establishing fact ,then its not faith.

Christians with their lack of proof thus does not permit them to establish fact, and if they did have such
it would nullify their need for faith.
Christians overwhelmingly rely on their faith simply because faith [or beliefs] don't require facts, evidence, proof or truth.

-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.