Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by Thunderstick
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by Thunderstick
Bowsinger
I think we have more than proven the alleged contradictions do not exist with every alleged contradiction that we have addressed with you. If you are not willing to see that, then more of the same will not profit you. I have not seen you post anything that cannot be reconciled. It comes down to what you are willing to believe and not what is honestly believable. One thing you are bringing to the forefront about the Bible is that it typically presents both sides of an issue so we can see it from all angles. A person gets very skewed in their perspectives when they always look at an issue from one vantage point.
Are you willing to look at evidence from an honest perspective? Are you able to step outside your skepticism? Do you honestly seek truth? A child cannot learn from their teacher unless they first accept that their teacher has knowledge to impart. You will never find truth until you first accept that their is truth to be known...



I want to thank you for helping me prove the Bible is riddled with contradictions. I have a lot more of them.

Every one that I have posted and you have responded; you state that there is no contradiction. Then you explain and give reasons for the contradiction.

For example...“… the earth abideth for ever.” — Ecclesiastes 1:4
the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.” — 2Pet

You responded with a good explanation about the earth being destroyed and than renewed. So the “earth abideth forever” still remains a contradiction.

However most of the others you did not respond, but you claim to have proven they do not exist. You have not done that.

You have yet to even respond to my first example about the contradictions between God in the Old and God in the New Testament. Did the authors evolve from God killing children, raining burning sulfur, and genocide to the gentle teachings of Jesus?

You tell me to seek the truth. But I say onto you that the truth in not in you.


After 4 examples if you cannot see the contradictions are in your own mind and not the text, then responding to 6 more will only illustrate the same point. Not meaning to be disrespectful but the level you go to try to prove something that cannot be proven only weakens the position you hold. The contradictions that I addressed are not very difficult to resolve--it only takes some context, honest inquiry, and common sense.


After 4 examples of Bible contradictions that you cannot resolve...I am still waiting for your response to the contradictions between God in the Old and God in the New Testament. To me, that is the biggest one of all.
Moses:
DEUTERONOMY 2:34 At that time we took all his towns and completely destroyed them – men, women and children. We left no survivors.
DEUTERONOMY 3:6 We completely destroyed them, as we had done with Sihon king of Heshbon, destroying every city – men, women and children.

Meanwhile here is another contradiction
Incest
“Cursed be he that lieth with his sister, the daughter of his father, or the daughter of this mother…” — Deuteronomy 27:22
“And if a man shall take his sister, his father’s daughter, or his mother’s daughter…it is a wicked thing….” — Leviticus 20:17

[But what was god’s reaction to Abraham, who married his sister — his father’s daughter?] See Genesis 20:11-12
“And God said unto Abraham, As for Sara thy wife…I bless her, and give thee a son also of her…” — Genesis 17:15-16





Its really beyond the scope of an internet posting to get all this across but I'm only on my second cup of coffee and I'll try.

In Genesis 15, God made his covenant with Abraham. It says "Abraham believed God and it was "CREDITED" to him for righteousness". Did not say he was righteous but that he received it "on credit". You also have to consider that the Mosaic law against incest which you quote from Leviticus and Deuteronomy was not given until 400 plus years after Abraham. Paul teaches in Romans that "without law there is no knowledge of sin".....so the reality is that Abe did not know he was not supposed to marry his sister. The sin was there but until the law, God did not "impute" it except in cases where it threatened the existence of our species.......examples the flood and Sodom.

Back to the Covenant in Genesis 15. This would establish the nation of Israel from which the Messiah would eventually come. In ancient Bedouin culture the blood covenant was the most serious form of agreement there was. Breaking it meant the death of the offending party and perhaps his family as well. God used this practice to convince Abraham, on his level, that his word was good. They took some large animals, killed them, cut them in half and laid the halves opposite of each other making a "walkway" between them.....a bloody mess. They would stand in this walkway and swear oaths to one another with the implication being if they were broken, what happened to the animals would happen to them. In this way God essentially wedded himself to Abraham and subsequently the Jewish people. In making covenant with another family or party one of the aspects in those days was "your enemies are my enemies and everything I have is yours". In this way, the people who came against ancient Israel put themselves in the position of being the enemies of the almighty and were in a world of hurt as God had sworn in blood to protect and defend his people.

All of this of course was a huge process played out over centuries in which the ultimate goal was to get Jesus into the earth and accomplish the redemtion of man. Currently we are in the era of the Gospel. When that era ends at the second coming, Jesus ain't gonna be so "gentle" to the enemies of God.

"Men must be governed by God or they will be ruled by tyrants". --- William Penn