Originally Posted by TF49
Originally Posted by DBT
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter


Livestock is given double rations on Friday afternoon as well. But some chores are unavoidable on Sabbath and allowed for the health of the herd or flock. Such as, the sheep must still be herded to pasture and water. Cattle or goats must be taken to water if no live water flows through their containment. Dairy animals have to be milked night and morning. And any young animals still dependent upon that milk must be fed.



I meant it as an example of activities that may be construed as being work. It may be construed that people who caught the stick gatherer were themselves engaged in work by arresting him....nor does it say what they were doing out of camp. There are too many holes in the account.

Not that it matters to the contradiction between a God of love who ''is not easily angered, keeps no record of wrongs. ''Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.'' and a God who orders a man killed for the trivial offense of gathering sticks on a Sabbath....which may not even be listed on the 'not to do list'




Gathering wood on the Sabbath, openly and in direct and flagrant disobedience to a clear command of God. Stick your finger up at God and expect Him to just let it go? Nope, it doesn’t work that way.

But, it seems you do not understand, accept and certainly don’t believe the truth of the Law and what it shows and represents. Also, you can’t understand the fulfillment of the Law.

It would seem you really don’t like the idea that sin has consequences.

Sin, flagrant disobedience and disregard for the Creator, has consequence.

God does not tolerate sin and sin is not allowed in His heaven.


At one time, I ran a large crew of men doing some difficult and somewhat dangerous work. Working for me was simple.... listen to the instructions ..... do it the right way..... if one would not do that, if he was endangering himself and the rest of the crew and he would be gone pdq.

Life is kinda that way..... you can listen and do it right or like Stevie Nicks sang.......“go your own way.”








We are not told about the circumstances by which the man was gathering sticks, or what the people who caught him were doing.

Not that any of this matters to the contradiction between descriptions of a God of Love and the vindictive Tyrant of the old testament. If one is true, the other must be false, hence a contradiction between the two sets of descriptions.