Originally Posted by victoro
Originally Posted by Jahrs
Originally Posted by victoro
To Jahrs:

"If you knew that your child was heading for danger would you not warn him because of your love and foreknowledge?"

Any adult or parent who tells a child that they are going to Hell and will burn for eternity if they don't believe in their God is guilty of child abuse including your pompous self righteous self. I was never told I was going to Hell if I didn't believe in some God by any of my family but I heard it plenty in church and from nutters like you. I figured out at about age 6 that every person that was promising something they couldn't deliver (everlasting life in a Heaven) was a false prophet. Why would anyone want to go to a Heaven full of people like you anyway?


So your parents didn’t teach you anything and shipped you off to church by yourself and you had it all figured out by 6 years old.
Are you mad at your parents?


My parents taught me how to be a good moral person with logic, not threats of burning in a Hell, promises of everlasting life or brainwashing. They exposed me to religion but let me make my own decisions about religion. I'd heard enough in Bible school and sermons age 6 to figure out if I wanted nothing to do with any religion but it was forced on me by many adults (not my family). I remember being forced to lead a morning prayer in my 6th grade class and this same teacher asked each of her students what church their parents attended. She was probably one of your "enlightened" ancestors.


Oh the horror. Under that kind of pressure did you go with a standard boilerplate prayer or did you make up a humdinger? In the 6th grade you probably could have got away with "God bless mama and daddy, teacher, and the starving pygmies in Africa.....amen".

I remember one time in church circa 1980 something a guest preacher said that the opening prayer was gonna be delivered by one of the members of the high school sunday school class I was in at the time and he would wait all afternoon for one of us to do it if he had to. As was our custom we were all sitting together. I looked around at the others and saw nothing but deer in the headlight looks. There was awkward silence in the whole place but the worst part was the Redskins game kicked off at 1 and I was hoping to only miss the first quarter......we may have even been playing the Cowboys that week. I knew I was gonna have to be the man. I stood up and issued forth a lengthy prayer full of soaring rhetoric, completely contrived and devoid of any Spirit whatsoever because it was coerced. The grownups said AMEN as did the guest pastor! I looked at my companions and in their eyes saw the gratitude of those saved from damnation itself! laugh I was king of Sunday School for a day and got home in time to see the Skins. Can't remember if they won or not. laugh

"Men must be governed by God or they will be ruled by tyrants". --- William Penn