Originally Posted by Thunderstick
Originally Posted by Starman
For those not on the short list to get into heaven, take heart that God is still with you in hell.

Psa 139: KJV -
7 Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?
8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.




This is another good example of the skeptics lack of Scriptural understanding:
The word hell is used to mean grave or place of punishment. David is saying if he dies or takes his life and should he go to the grave
or the abode of the wicked he will not escape the judgment of God. In the final judgment death and hell will give up their dead to stand
before the Great White throne judgment to be tried for their deeds on earth. Rev.20:13


You say one is interimly punished [whilst waiting in the grave] before the white throne final judgment?- then following the white throne
one is cast into the lake of fire as punishment?

Why would God prematurely punish a person before his or her case was tried ?

are not Both the saved and unsaved who have died , all in their graves “sleeping” until the resurrection day?

and regarding the lake of Fire punishment,... thats not an eternal torture form of punishment, cause to be tortured and tormented for ever
would mean one would have to be immortal...and scripture is clear that one shall suffer the 2nd Death...which to me means total annihilation.
" And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death." (Revelation 20:14)
"I turned you to ashes ...you shall.be no more for ever" ( Ezekiel 28)
“The soul who sins shall die” (Ezekiel 18:20).
“Rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell” (Matthew 10:28).


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