No facts have been offered yet. I guess believers have no concept of facts vs. opinion. This post will be replied to with more opinions presented as fact. Also please understand I don't care if a person "believes" that is their right,its just not a fact. If you were debating a muzzy who was quoting the koran and saying mohommad was the one true profit you would be able to see the flaws in his argument. When you do the same thing using the bible and jesus you can't see it. That is where the brainwashing comes in.