Originally Posted by K22
[ You might want to give Lucifer more credit than you do. He didn't get the position he had while in Heaven by being stupid.
And lest you think he was tossed out and dumbed down, the Bible accounts of his many times walking right in without an invite and talking to God.


Satan after being cast out, still has certain limited access to heavenly realms, he wasn't totally exiled.
however I don't know of Satan just strolling in whenever he wanted unrestricted, but he did come when
summoned by GOD on occasion. [as in Job 1]

God also set the strict parameters of what Satan could apply to Job, and Satan fully obeyed-adhered to such conditions-restrictions set by God.

Imagine that ..Satan doing exactly what God asked of him...do you know of any christian that can fully obey God to the letter....???

Originally Posted by BOWSINGER


Not much forgiveness there...


Just remember, its not the devil , but the christian God that has dominion and controls and sets the fiery conditions in hell that they fear so much.



-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.