Originally Posted by Thunderstick
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Thunderstick
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Thunderstick
There is a Marxist type of Skepticism that denies everything it does not want to believe, regardless of the evidence, in order to promote its liberation theology.

Then there is also evidence based critical thinking that is skeptical of the above and sees liberation theology as the opposite of real freedom that is based on self-evident truth.


I'm not a Marxist.

I'm a Capitalist.

Your inability to imagine Capitalist, Constitutionalist, Veteran who's also Atheist say volumes about your closed mind.


I did not say anything about capitalism. I am simply saying that skepticism which denies God and moral absolutes and which is totally materialistic in its approach is a Marxist type of skepticism.
Our founders were certainly critical thinking people and founded our nation on their belief in those self evident truths and on those premises wrote a Constitution. Are you accusing them of being close minded?


There's nothing "Marxist" about my skepticism, and your assertion that there is, is a slanderous ad hominem attack.

You have much more in common with the Marxist than I, because you both worship untrue propositions damaging to the well being of people.


I have nothing in common with the basic premises of Marxism below. But some here have repeatedly shown evidence of agreement with their theology. This is simply stating facts. When someone does not like the facts they typically say they are being slandered.

Anti-religious principles of Marxism https://www.marxist.com/marxism-religion-liberation-theology220701.htm

1.Marxists stand on the basis of philosophical materialism, which rules out the existence of any supernatural entity, or anything outside or "above" nature. There is, in fact, no need for any such explanation for life and the universe - least of all today. Nature furnishes its own explanations and it furnishes them in great abundance.
2. The latest discoveries have finally exploded the nonsense of Creationism.
3.So, in spite of all this scientific development, why does Religion still have a grip on the minds of millions? Religion offers men and women the consolation of a life after death.
4.Where religion teaches us to lift our eyes to the heavens, Marxism tells us to fight for a better life on earth. Marxists believe that men and women should fight to transform their lives and to create a genuinely human society which would permit the human race to lift itself up to its true stature. We believe that men and women have only one life, and should dedicate themselves to making this life beautiful and self-fulfilling. If you like, we are fighting for a paradise in this life, because we know there is no other.
5. Lenin also pointed out that Engels recommended that the revolutionary party should carry out a struggle against religion: "The party of the proletariat demands that the state shall declare religion a private matter, but it does not for a moment regard the question of a fight against the opium of the people - the fight against religious superstition, etc., - as a private matter. The opportunists have so distorted the question as to make it appear that the Social Democratic Party regards religion as a private matter." Lenin on Religion pg 18
6.In the struggle of science against religion - that is to say, the struggle of rational thought against irrationality - Marxism sides wholeheartedly with science.
7. From the Communist manifesto:Question 22. Do Communists reject existing religions?
Answer: All religions which have existed hitherto were expressions of historical
stages of development of individual peoples or groups of peoples. But
communism is that stage of historical development which makes all existing
religions superfluous and supersedes them.
8.Vladimir Lenin was highly critical of religion, saying in his book Religion:
Atheism is a natural and inseparable part of Marxism, of the theory and practice of scientific socialism.[7]
In The Attitude of the Workers’ Party to Religion, he wrote:
Religion is the opium of the people: this saying of Marx is the cornerstone of the entire ideology of Marxism about religion. All modern religions and churches, all and of every kind of religious organizations are always considered by Marxism as the organs of bourgeois reaction, used for the protection of the exploitation and the stupefaction of the working class.[8]





It doesn't change the fact, that at the core, you are both still wrong in a damaging way, and THAT's what you have in common with the Marxist.

You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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