Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by nighthawk

Coercion and free will are not mutually exclusive, you have free will to defy coercion. Ask any willful child.



Did the church not use coercion to rape and sexuality abuse children around the globe?

Or did all the children simply submit to such abuse though unimpeded free will?

The priests , brothers and bishops didn't use their authoritative and intimidating coercive powers?
What does that have to do with the Church? Those are the acts of individuals, acts the doctrine of the Church condemn.

The key elements in human thinking are not numbers but labels of fuzzy sets. -- L. Zadeh

Which explains a lot.