Originally Posted by Thunderstick


The second death has never meant annihilation just like the first death never meant annihilation. The lake of fire is the second death and the wicked
are cast into it where the beast and the false prophet ARE ... along with them the torment is forever.



many christians remain divided on that, not all read scripture as meaning ordinary sinners will be tormented for ever in the Lake.
but all so typical of of so many christians, you think your interpretation is superior and trumps others.

the 2nd death is very specific to human sinners, whereas the devil , false profit and beast face a very different fate
not described as death.

Rev.20:10
And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet
had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever".




Originally Posted by Thunderstick


2Thess. 1: 9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;



Yes, an everlasting destruction , not torment....God destroys the wicked sinner[ once and for all] in a final act of annihilation.
otherwise known as = 2nd death. ....a final irreversible death sentence/termination/destruction one cannot be redeemed from.

Originally Posted by Thunderstick

Destroyed equals an everlasting destruction of torment and separation from God.


How do you equate death (being destoyed-turned to spent ash) as a form of etenal 'burning' torment?
Do you know the difference between executing someone and specific intentional eternal torture?


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