You cannot use Jesus words as standard of measure unless we understand that they are the words of Jesus. Either you accept Jesus Words and the OT record both as reliable accounts or you have no case at all to discern. You can't say you believe in Jesus moral standard if you don't even believe in Jesus or His words.

If you believe in neither testament than what is your moral standard that we are going to use to judge?

Last edited by Thunderstick; 07/10/19.