Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by Thunderstick



In looking at what has been posted on this thread the Skeptic beliefs are much more closely aligned with Marxism than what our founders all signed. In fact most of the skeptics on this thread could not honestly sign the Declaration based on what they posted. Based on the clear evidence of this thread, we have a right:

1. to be skeptical of whether they espouse the American principles of free government
2. to be skeptical of the value of their belief in our free societies that are based on God given freedoms
3. to be skeptical of the scholarship which underlies their belief system- because we like our founders believe Creation and moral absolutes are self evident and beyond reasonable debate




I believe religion is "the opiate of the masses" and one should strive to experience heaven here on Earth as there is no other. I also believe in moral absolutes which are beyond reasonable debate and find these to be self evident. How are these things mutually exclusive?


Do you believe in moral absolutes based on God's moral standards as the founders? Moral absolutes outside of God are merely the product of a society. The Nazis created their own society and morals and by their own creation they were perfectly moral in gassing the Jews. So how could we try them for war crimes for obeying their own laws and morals?