Originally Posted by Starman
Free will means having ones own unimpeded, independent , autonomous , self-dertmination etc in decision making.

when the approach taken by a church knowingly involves coercion, those things attributed to liberty or 'free' will
are lost.


Your definition is at odds with the Encyclopedia Britannica for one. It is a capacity to act, completely divorced from the action of choosing as explained above. Don't know how to make it clearer.


The key elements in human thinking are not numbers but labels of fuzzy sets. -- L. Zadeh

Which explains a lot.