Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by TF49
AS,

You’re dodging again..... Creator? .... or Nothing created everything?


Nice false dichotomy. Upon what basis are you asserting there ever was your version of "nothing".

Here's the difference between a Lawerence krauss and a Theist.

Larry actually proposed workable hypothesis that could move us one step closer to a true understanding of the nature of our existence. As with many discoveries, it creates new questions and new lines of inquiry. Just because a line of inquiry creates new questions, that doesn't mean it's wrong.





AS,

More dodging and bafflegab from you. Seems you can’t bring yourself to be pinned down. You know that “Everything” does not come from “Nothing” but you won’t admit it because that reinforces the case for the existence of a Creator.

In his talks, Krauss has apparently said that his works point to the “non-existence of a Creator.” He does not seem to think there is a false dichotomy here. Cosmology or Creator is what Larry talks about. The only alternative he sees to “Everything from Nothing” is indeed a Creator God…. which he dismisses as the existence of God cannot be shown with empirical evidence.

Given the nature of his book and given his own statements, Magic Larry did not propose a workable hypothesis at all. There is no start at “nothing” at all. In fact, he will talk about three types of “nothing” and all three of these are indeed something. If you venture out of your echo chamber you will see that many capable and credible physicists have characterized his book and notoriety as “embarrassing.” He’s just a book seller of paid speaker….. huckster?

Here is a link to the Colbert interview:

https://www.bing.com/videos/searchq...2BBD4A096CE1FF4C5DEB2BBD4A&FORM=VIRE

At 1:39 ML says there is “no evidence for a deity.” Well, other than “Everything.” He says there is no need for God about the 7 minute mark. Well, only if one is gobbling up this nonsense.

Note that at 2:11, Colbert zings him when he describes the “first type of nothing” …… Magic Larry describes nothing and Colbert informs him that what he just described “is not nothing.”

He says at 5:19 he says there is no need for “supernatural shenanigans” as he has presumably showed how the universe could come from nothing. A statement based on his clear falsehoods.

Here is another link that examines his book:

http://www.wall.org/~aron/blog/a-universe-from-nothing/


Atheists heralded Krauss when the book first came out and now he is just an embarrassment, playing to the echo chamber crowd and the uninformed. But since the atheist will not allow himself out of the echo chamber, the atheists… and the agnostics ….. will search for the next reason to reject the reality of God.

The tax collector said: “Lord Jesus, have mercy on me, a sinner.” Jesus said he went home “justified.”