Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by DBT
Originally Posted by Thunderstick


Where in the Bible does the Bible describe God as cruel and vindictive? Are you inserting your own morals into the way you assess God? This is cruel and vindictive by your own moral standard which you said you would not use. God is not done punishing sin in this world and you can call it whatever you please. His attributes will all be expressed in harmony which includes His holiness, justice, wrath against sin, along with the love and mercy. God is not only loving and merciful He also is expressive of wrath, justice, and holiness.


''Ye shall know them by their fruits. ... By their fruits you will know them'' - God ordering the massacre of women and children is a cruel and vicious act, ordering the killing of a man gathering sticks on a Sabbath is a cruel and unjust act.....behaviour that is not related to the given descriptions of a God of Love.

'Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.' " 1 Samuel 15:3

"Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us / He who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks." Psalm 137

“Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.” (1 Peter 2:18)


God "visits the iniquity of the fathers upon the children and the children's children to the third and fourth generation." Exodus 34:7

Cruel and unusual punishments for those guilty of no crime but the so called sins of their ancestors.

The OT does not describe a God of Love;

"God is love." - 1 John 4:8

1 Corinthians 13; Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.''



Good Lord! It is even worse than I thought. Some of you guys just flunked Bible studies.

"Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us / He who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks." Psalm 137

It is true that Christ taught a better way...but there lays one of the contradictions. Do not tell me that it isn’t there...




Well, you don’t understand. Here is a greatly condensed interpretation of Psalm 137...special focus on the “happy” verse...... not mine, but one that is credible.

Some think this is both a lament and prophecy..... against Babylon..... lament as the Jews were in captivity and a prophecy about the future fall of “Babylon.”

“Babylon” was indeed warlike and victimized people’s all around. It was much hated. It was overthrown and the destruction was “near total.”

Those that destroyed Babylon were indeed happy in delivering that defeat.

So, what is your issue with God here?



Last edited by TF49; 07/13/19.
The tax collector said: “Lord Jesus, have mercy on me, a sinner.” Jesus said he went home “justified.”