Originally Posted by DBT
Originally Posted by jaguartx
I hope you remember that "assume too much" when your knee bends.


You yourself happen to be assuming the vindictive tyrant over the God of Love, who does not keep a record of wrongs and is 'good to all' unconditionally.


DBT I have concluded that either you "cannot" logically engage in an argument or you simply "will" not. You keep blithely quoting 1Cor.13 as if it is a description of the attributes of God's love when it is not. It is a chapter whose context is talking about love between brothers in the church. It is sandwiched between two chapters talking about church life.

How God exercises His love from eternity is not the same as how we are to exercise love between brothers in time. God has always reserved for himself the right to keep a record of wrongs and to punish sin.

Even from a purely logical and common sense point of view your argument has no coherency. What exercise of government would never keep a record of wrongs or punish them? How would it make a government unloving if it did punish transgression? Should they punish on the basis of record or on the basis of a whim? We expect a loving and just government to care for it citizens by punishing transgressors from an accurate record. The same is true for God.

On the other hand this chapter makes perfect sense when applied to close interpersonal relationships. We don't keep records of our brother's shortcomings and hold them over their head or we will not have a close relationship. Because God does justly review everyone's actions there are somethings which we just let go and let them in His hands to decide and we focus on a close relationship. It's the same in the world outside of the church. It is not our duty to execute vigilante justice over our neighbors every time they offend us, nor do we say when your list of wrongs reaches x number we are going to stop being neighborly. Even this passage is balanced out by other passages in the same book where the church is asked to hold people accountable for deliberate and serious offenses in their behavior.

You hop-scotch through scripture trying to play your game of tic-tack-toe syllogisms with little regard for context, logic, or common sense.

Perhaps this approach works for an analysis with the old primer of Dick, Jane, and Sally; but it does not work for the Bible or any other book that is worthy of discussion.

Are you unable or unwilling to see the simple common sense of this?

Last edited by Thunderstick; 07/16/19.