Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by Bristoe
So,..even the Apostle Paul, who God specifically sent to the Gentiles admits that he has a sinful nature.
But Ringman claims to be the only sinless human except for the Messiah.
Good luck with that.
So... even the "Apostle" Paul who makes the claim that God sent him to the Gentiles admits that he has a sinful nature.

That was pretty nice of him since he decided to jump in front of John the Baptist, Jesus, and all the real publicly chosen apostles.

He even got carried off to some level of heaven and had conversations with Jesus who forgot to tell a good bit of his doctrine during his 3 year ministry.

Then he got in such hot water with the Christians that the Romans had to extract their agent and haul him off to Rome.

There seems to be at least one Apostle Paul in every church.


I’ve never understood your stance that Paul preached a different message than Christ. I’ve had a lot of conversations with a lot of people about the Christian faith and as far back as I can remember you are the only person I’ve ever talked to who holds this view.

For the sake of understanding you would you mind listing out the bullet points of your view?