Originally Posted by Raspy
Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
Calling the cosmos, or universe, a creation is an unsubstantiated assertion.

There's nothing in religious documents that even come close to describing the universe because those writers had no idea. You'd think a god would want to mention that to somebody - might've added more clout to the story.

Oh, but there are mentions....

Judaeo-Christian scripture has never hesitated to mention.....

“All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.” (John 1:3)

“For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.” (Colossians 1:16)

There seem to be two options here: Either nothing caused the known universe to exist, or something cause the known universe to exist....but just like DBT said, "The fact is, there being no conclusions, we don't know. "


My statement still remains otherwise uncorrected - you haven't shown otherwise.


Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
Originally Posted by Raspy
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk.

That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied.

Well?