Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by Muffin
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by Muffin
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by Hastings
Would not Jesus saying "the Father and I are one" be akin to when the secretary of state says "I speak for the president"?
NO!
No man can come to the FATHER but by ME.
Jesus is the radiance of GODs Glory and the EXACT representation of HIS nature.... HEB 1
Let's stick with only what Jesus said of himself in the synoptic gospels. John differs from them and we don't know who wrote Hebrews and of course Paul never met Jesus unless he met him out in the desert. Out in the desert, which Jesus warned us about.

Jesus sure did a lot of talking about his Father and prayed to his Father and often referenced his Father.

Think about it.

JESUS, by HIS own admission, did not personally bring us ALL truth....

HE said that task would be accomplished by the Holy Spirit..... SO, you cannot look to ONLY HIS words for '...all things pertaining to life and GODliness...'
I saw that. The holy spirit must be how God quietly guides you. I don't think some flesh and blood weirdo out on the road to where ever in the desert became the Holy Spirit infused with the knowledge Jesus neglected to tell us. But I'm studying it to see if it might make sense however I'm unable to see it. Just because a witness says some things that are true doesn't mean he is not lying about the most important issue. Stick with Jesus words only and you will not get confused.

JOHN 17:

JESUS thought the words of the disciples/apostles were worth listening to, and were NOT confusing!!!

20 “I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who [j]will believe in Me through their word; 21 that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me.


"...A man's rights rest in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box..." Frederick Douglass, 1867

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