Human minds, human thoughts, human beliefs. From this thing we call "God," we hear nothing.
Which is not to say that some may genuinely feel they are in a relationship with God and that God communicates with them.
You offer us nothing other than human thought in your arguments. Then you demand material evidence in the presence of material evidence and extend that demand by expecting material evidence for anything metaphysical.
I get that. You don’t believe. You deny the evidence offered to you yet demand more. I believe that most here can live with your choice. Why can’t you live with the choice that believers make?
Everything that exists in the physical universe, by definition, has physical properties that can be detected.
Human minds may postulate or hypothesis this or that particle or interpretation of QM, but our hypothesis and postulations are not established facts.
God is posulated and believed in on the basis of faith, not physical properties that we can detect.
So what we have is people speaking on behalf of the God they believe in, not something that can be detected, examined or tested.
God, if such a thing exists, does not reveal Its existence or communicate with us openly and directly.
So we are left with what people believe and what they tell us about God.
Directly and openly from God, nothing.
Nope, you are still wrong.
Proverbs 18:2…
“ A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion.”
Apparently blind and deaf by your own choice.
That's not a rational argument. It is your opinion as a believer expressing your means of dismissing the truth. Which is that God is a human concept, a belief that's held on faith, neither testable or falsifiable.
If God did appear objectively and openly for all to see and hear, there would be no dispute.
Given an objective experience of God, we would all be theists.
It is not rational nor logical that you would make …..what you seem to consider a statement of fact or truth….. that God does not communicate directly and openly. You may not see or hear God, but it is just plain ignorant to state that others do not.
You are simply expressing you own opinion which apparently reflects your own experience.
You are are also wrong about “we would all be theists” given an “objective experience of God.”
There were many that walked and talked with Jesus….. witnessed His miracles…. yet turned their backs.
God did “appear objectively and openly….” He let’s His presence be known in at least three ways…..the majesty of Creation…. The Word of God in the Bible and through the conviction and witness of the Holy Spirit.
Seek…find…….don’t seek, don’t find.
When we communicate with each other, our communication is there for anyone present to see, hear or read.
Someone telling you that they communicate with God is not objective.
They may be sincere but mistake subconscious thoughts for communications from God (I know people in this category), they may have a brain condition, be delusional, etc, etc.
Subjective experience is not evidence for the existence of God.
