Originally Posted by Ringman
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by Ringman
I am a sinner saved by God's Grace

*That* is the primary message that you took offense to in the video I posted.

Grace is a gift. It's not payment. You can be as "legal" as a human can be and you can't earn it.

You can preach that as long as you want and I will still want to serve God in humble loving obedience. Don't forget, Jesus legalistically obeyed the Father.

Out of gratitude we all “want to serve God in humble loving obedience.”

Problem is, we can’t and don’t.

Which is why “Jesus legalistically obeyed the Father.” At least if by “legalistically” you mean “perfectly”. He did so because first that’s His nature but He came to do so because anything less would not have paid our debt.

It isn’t a matter of desire but a humble sense of one’s inability.