Originally Posted by Raspy
Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
Originally Posted by Raspy
Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
Originally Posted by Raspy
Originally Posted by Raspy
Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
Originally Posted by TF49
[quote=mauserand9mm][quote=TF49][quote=mauserand9mm]It's a sad thing that all you only have is personal attacks and diatribe. It's no wonder Christianity is on the decline - nobody with any normal level of self respect would want to be part of that, and you guys are always the ones that arc up when faced with reasonable questions that you can't, or won't answer with honesty, always filling the gaps with false assertions that do nothing but make you feel good, despite what the truth may be.

You don't sell your religion very well and I'm sure that a god would be disappointed. YMMV

You and Raspy just go ahead and console each other in yet another hour of butt hurt.



Well, as usual, one of your unsubstantiated statements is way off target. Regardless if Christianity is in decline or not…….it does not matter…..to YOU….. if you consider the behavior of Christians to be a turnoff.

I'm not the only one who thinks this.


Originally Posted by TF49
At the end of your day, it will be only ….You and your relationship with Jesus that will matter.

Wild unsubstantiated assertion. Jesus, if he ever existed, died a long time ago.


Just so you know….

You do not see…. A veil lies over your heart….2 Corinthians 3:16 “But when one turns to the Lord, the veil is removed.”

This is how I know …..with certainty….2 Timothy 1:14 “Guard, through the Holy Spirit, who dwells in us, the treasure which has been entrusted to you.”

As I have noted before….when God comes to live within….and the veil is lifted, there is no doubt and no uncertainty.

This is the evidence and the proof…..

No it's not. Doesn't do a whole lot for me. Everybody has fibrous connective tissue inside their bodies - just holds everything together.

That is part of the evidence that Christians believe....and that is called faith....Can you please tell me why I should reject the words of Jesus who claimed to be God in flesh, fulfilled the prophecies, rose from the dead.?

Your last chance...please answer. You wanted a reasonable discussion. So, please give me a reasonable answer to my question, hint, see above.... Okay, I see you don’t really have a good reason. Again, I have given you some quick, basic reasons for my faith and why I believe what I do, and you’ve offered nothing of substance at all, just stating I am a liar.


Huh?


You can believe what you like. If you can't handle the questions of your baseless assertions and lack of critical thinking, then you must be militantly closed minded and are clearly happy to remain willfully ignorant.

You come across as so weak in your faith that you try and use flawed arguements to back it up - a god would surely also pick up on this.
It's been repeatedly pointed out to you that what you claim is evidence is not actually evidence of that claim. You just don't get it.

--You seem too concerned with proofs, yet you have offered no supporting proofs for your assertions. Using the science of history, one can quickly demonstrate that Jesus existed. At the very least, this includes highly credible eye-witnesses. Secondly, there is the origin of all matter, and therefore space, time and energy, coincided with the Big Bang Creation Event. Whether I have proven anything to you “absolutely” or even absolutely is irrelevant. People accept EVIDENCE for things we take as fact every day, despite the lack of “absolute MAUSER” proof. I have good reasons for accepting the claims of Jesus, and I have similarly good reasons for accepting my wife’s claim that she loves me (and by the way, this is also based on the science of history).

--God The Bible... If Christ did not literally rise from the dead, then none of his history or teachings have any credence....those who witnessed the resurrection of Christ were all consistent in their testimony of what they claimed to have seen. One of the most basic investigation techniques a criminal detective has is to ask a witness or suspect the same question over and over. If their testimony is untrue, their inconsistency obviously indicates their attempted deception. But if they are consistent in their testimony – and consistent with hundreds of others who claimed the same events to be true, then their truthfulness becomes obvious.

There is enough EVIDENCE for myself and other Christians.... and AGAIN EVIDENCE, BUT NO MAUSER PROOF...again, isn't that called Christian FAITH?
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Faith is used in lieu of knowing the truth. It's okay to say the truth is not always known, but believers will insert a god into these knowledge gaps, pretending to know the truth, but their stories just deepen the mystery and depart from reality.


Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
Originally Posted by Raspy
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk.

That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied.

Well?