this is one of the best discussions we have had in a spell now.

nobody throwing hard backed hymn books, not even soft backed ones.

humans on the earth, and we're turning the earth into human artifacts pretty quickly.

especially in the last say 200 years or so? maybe less, yes? times they are a-changing.

humans being taxed to send people to the moon, and beyond. how does that fit with evolution?

personally i think we've got a story line here that needs additional research and development.