Originally Posted by Gus
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Ringman
Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
Interesting point. He sure lets a lot of bad things happen then - wonder what his excuse might be.


He doesn't need an "excuse". But if you appeal to the Bible for the answer, you discover He cursed the entire universe because Adam disobeyed.


"Cursed the entire universe because Adam disobeyed".

That about that claim for a few minutes and what that says about your alleged god. What kind of petty being would do such a thing?

Does that even make sense, or it does it make more sense that the whole story is just an allegory?


the whole story, if that's what it is, and i suspect it is, is being told from one or more versions of the human side of the story(s).

in other words, given our consciousness and imagination, no wonder the theologians and the quantum physicists come up with the stories that they do.

and as long as they hold up, & work, who's to disagree? as time goes on, ideas have a way of expressing themselves as long as there's a human body that serves as a carrier.


The story of The Garden of Eden holds up as a coming of age story. It doesn't hold up as a scientific explanation for the origins of our universe.

As for "who's to disagree", we are all free to make that evaluation for ourselves. Just because a stories old doesn't make it true in a literal sense, and it's literary value may have been distorted or rendered obsolete over time.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell