Originally Posted by DBT
Originally Posted by Ringman
Originally Posted by DBT
The claim of special creation, the whole unimaginably vast universe created by some kind of supernatural being who is invisible and non detectable is a claim of magical creation....that the whole shebang supposedly fully formed on the command of this entity is an act of magic.

Especially when the evidence does not support the claim....we can see new stars forming out of clouds of gas, old stars at the end of their lives.....seeing objects and events billions of years back in time due to the speed of light and astronomical distances.


Back to, "I'm the center of the universe" type of thought. Because you have not recognized any experience with God does not eliminate other's experience with God.

You obviously don't understand gas mechanics. The gas pressure to prevent the formation of stars is at least fifty times stronger than the gravitational pull on that same gas.

By the way, after the Big Bang how did the individual gas molecules overcome the equilateral dispersion momentum to even make a "gas cloud"?


Try reading a basic textbook on astrophysics instead of creationist propaganda, just a friendly suggestion.


Some of Ringman's arguments are so bad even the creationist propagandist say not to use them.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell