Its never straight forward with Catholics, there's always some convoluted spin twist interpretation involved.


Originally Posted by nighthawk
What I don't accept is cherry picking alternate definitions to force the result you want..


I used a dictionary with variety of definitions for control, you used one childish example of your own 'a radio control truck'

so who's the one being narrow and cherry picking?

Not all forms of CONTROL are as rigid as you like to make out....People under the control or influence of others
are not robotic like an RC model.

Jesus in the wilderness was regulated by the Spirit , which means the Spirit had some form of influence or control.


-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.