Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by nighthawk
Without an absolute, guiding moral ideology, and I don't think secular humanists have that, you're left with the bad of human nature and none of the good. Why did the grand Marxist experiment degenerate into a country run by corrupt oligarchs in a very short time on the scale of human history?

Mostly because they had no Constitution which limited the power of the Executive Branch.

Absolute power does corrupt absolutely, whether that power be contained in a Theocracy or a Socialist Democracy.


The Inquisition was lead and carried out by me with an absolute, guiding moral ideology, and it lead them to great evil.

Not all atheist are Marxist.

If you wanted to talk about secular government, you’d have to point to a government that built all its institutions on the teachings of Spinoza and Darwin and Einstein and Jefferson and Locke. America is the closest example. But because religion entered into it—bringing slavery and genocide and so on—I don’t think you can point to it.

Atheism is a necessary condition for emancipation of the mind, but it’s not a sufficient one. You can free yourself from superstition and still end up a nihilist or a hedonist or a Stalinist.

What’s innate in our species isn’t the fault of religion. But the bad things that are innate in our species are strengthened by religion and sanctified by it. The fact is, we are a mammalian species one half-chromosome away from [bleep], and it shows. Curing ourselves of religion is only a small step along the road. Fortunately, our brains seem to be evolving.

(Paraphrasing Christopher Hitchens)


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell