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The issue those of us who understand evolution have with those who claim to accept what they term micro evolution while rejecting what they term macro evolution is that you don't define your terms. As a result, whenever we meet the challenge of providing convincing evidence of something beyond micro evolution having occurred, you will concede that that was indeed evolution, just not macro evolution, i.e., you expand the definition of micro evolution a little bit each time we go beyond your previous definition. So instead of conceding that macro evolution occurred, you expand your definition of micro evolution to include what we've just provided convincing evidence of.

So, what exactly are the parameters of what you term micro evolution, so we don't waste our time proving macro evolution, only to be told that you have expanded the definition of micro evolution to include that, too. And don't say germ to moose. What's the dividing line between micro and macro evolution? And tell us the specifics. Can't produce offspring of any sort? Is that the line?

In other words, is the standard for concluding that two species are unrelated that they cannot produce any offspring, fertile or not, requiring artificial insemination or not?

PS Of course, our position is that all species are related, i.e., share a common ancestor. The feature that determines to what degree they can produce offspring together is how long they've been genetically isolated from one another. Never isolated = no problem reproducing fertile offspring together. Recently isolated = some difficulty producing fertile offspring together. Isolated for a longer period (or greater degree) = impossible to produce fertile offspring, but can still produce infertile offspring. Even isolated for a longer period (or to a greater degree) = even infertile offspring are very rare. Even isolated for longer than that (or to a greater degree) = requires laboratory conditions to even produce infertile offspring. Even more distantly isolated = cannot reproduce, even infertile offspring, even within laboratory conditions, e.g., even with artificial insemination or other assistance, at least at this time.

Are a llama and a camel two separate species? Is their division from one another an example of macro or micro evolution?