Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Fubarski
After the 4.5 billion years and alla the mutations, e. coli is still just e. coli.

Mutations aren't evolution.

Mutations are random genetic misfires that may help, or hurt, the organism.

There's mutations among humans, i.e., webbed feet, but no one is suggesting the people with webbed feet is more evolved than the resta us.

The usual bullshit thrown out in desperation.


Change in allele frequency is the very definition of evolution.

hurt the descendants too much and they don't make it. Help them enough and they are more successful, and you have natural selection. Wash, rinse, repeat for an unimaginable number of generations and you have populations evolving into new species.

It's all very simple.


Bullshit always sounds simple.

Mutations aren't passed on as an evolutionary progression would be.

It's a random event that happened to happen, and the chances of it being passed on are exactly the same as it happening in the first place.

And as a random event, the mutation may be just as likely a step backwards, from an evolutionary standpoint.

And e. coli, is still just e. coli. If your theory was fact, e. coli'd be walkin and talkin, by now.



Your assertions are just not true. In humans, the chance of a new allele being passes on is 50%. They may get the new copy from the parent with the mutation, or the equivalent positioned gene from the other parent. In bacteria, the chance of a mutated gene being passed on is almost 100%.

In the example of e.coli, there's 4 million base pairs, and a 1/1000 chance of any of those pairs mutating, so the chances are 1 in 4 billion that it won't be passed on.

If you roll a normal 6 sided die, the results are either one or not one, but the two potential out comes do not have equal odds.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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