Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by Thunderstick
But you cannot say that it is a moral absolute for anything to matter unless you believe in moral absolutes.

Oh, I believe in moral absolutes.

Never break a promise, absolutely.
Marriage is sacrosanct, absolutely.
Treat others as you would have them treat you.

Not because breaking such rules is a sin. But because breaking them is not conducive to harmonious relations.

It does not require devine inspiration for a group of intelligent humans to determine rules which allow society to function smoothly.

But I will admit, adding the carrot and stick of Heaven and Hell, does take some of the work out of enforcing those rules upon people not intelligent enough to figure out for themselves that rules should be followed.



The failure of your philosophy is illustrated when you have whole societies that embrace Fascism and Communism and they create their own morality and according to their morality, laws, and culture it is very proper to conduct themselves in the ways they did? The same moral breakdown is happening in our society today as people invent their own rules and create their own reality--like Obama and a whole host of liberals. Moral absolutes transcend cultures and people groups or they are not absolutes.