Originally Posted by DBT
Originally Posted by Gus
the secular humanists, running things on earth. can they do it efficiently, effectively and successfully using testing, measurements, and feed back responses?

i mean, if we choose to leave out a mystical leader, and we do it on our own, can we expect to be successful?

if there's a war between or among groups, and people die, whom should we blame for it?


Then there is political ideology and the craving for power, wealth and status....


yelp. and the idea of democracy, or individuals setting up their own gov't.

let's set the stage, ok?

we have an urth. it grows so much material/food/fiber each year.

we humans harvest the products produced by the earth.

of course we can fish, mine, timber, farm etc.

we are humans after all, are we not?