Originally Posted by Gus
the secular humanists, running things on earth. can they do it efficiently, effectively and successfully using testing, measurements, and feed back responses?

i mean, if we choose to leave out a mystical leader, and we do it on our own, can we expect to be successful?

if there's a war between or among groups, and people die, whom should we blame for it?


Then there is political ideology and the craving for power, wealth and status....