Originally Posted by nighthawk
Originally Posted by DBT
What is it that makes something a 'Universal Truth?' A description with an example may help.
In argument an a priori assumption. A principle which is held to be true without proof. A oft used example is, "The killing of an innocent person is always wrong." Another is the assumption of existence, why the , "This is all a computer simulation" argument is always fun. Can't prove existence or non-existence.

The point is without these assumptions you cant get anywhere - can go anywhere actually - because you can prove (in the philosophical sense) nothing without establishing a starting point..


Can you demonstrate that Universal Truth's even exist? Neither of your examples help you much. The first would include a prohibition on ending unbearable suffering, and according to classic Christianity, no one is innocent because everyone is tainted with original sin, so it's no prohibition at all. Even God violated this with the alleged flood, and I've if not in this thread, recently I've also mentioned the example of the slaughter of the Midionites, where Moses was displeased because the conquering Jews didn't murder all the children.

As for "the assumption of existence", in the words of Descartes, I think, there for I am. It's not an assumption. But the fact of existence in no way disputes a position of moral relativism so I doubt that's what you are really talking about when you reference a "Universal Truth".


Last edited by antelope_sniper; 07/28/19.

You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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