Originally Posted by Gus
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Gus
Originally Posted by DBT
Originally Posted by Thunderstick
[quote=DBT]

Where does the gravity and matter/energy interaction come from?



It doesn't come from anywhere, matter/energy/gravity exists, something rather than nothing, cyclic, quantum fluctuations, multiverse.....nobody knows...not even those who assert 'God did it'


if we're willing to first assume a god, then that gives us a ladder to climb up out of the hole in the ground.

usually, i've depended upon monetary theorists, and macro economists to supply the ladder.

but, probably god could do the job just as well. maybe better. i don't know.


What good reason is there to assume any supernatural being?

Why assume god(s) and not pixies?


there's more potential payoffs in assuming gods, vs. something less?

i mean, if we're going to assume "something" then let's go for the gold?

well, silver is good. it'll be the lesser of the two, and it'll buy meals at the store.

now, if pixies want to challenge the gods, and offer more, then let's hear their argument?

if the marketeers who represent and support the pixies, and can offer a good payoff, then why not?

right now, we're looking for a leader, down here on the urth, where we eat, work, and pay taxes. what next?


How about we don't assume anything, and base our beliefs on good evidence?


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell