ldmay375,

Here's hoping the real start of the Iditarod goes off without a hitch and they don't make the dogs wear masks on the trail out of Wasilla.

Whenever you get a chance, please tell the missionaries to continue spreading the truth about the .458 Winchester Magnum at this thread.

That feel for trajectory that Mike is talking about with 400-grainers: His 2000-2100 fps is a useful skill, whether with cast bullet or premium like the Woodleigh 400-gr PPSN.
Even though the great .458 WM+ can make the Woodleigh do 2600 fps, and the recommended impact velocity is only 2500 fps,
if you get a feel for that trajectory, velocity will be down to recommended past 50 yards, so that might be a useful skill for large varmints at longer ranges,
and plumb spectacular on smaller varmints at close range.

I am like you when it comes to using bullets less than 400 grains in the .458s and less than 350 grains in the .416s for large game.
For varmints I am plenty OK with 250- to 350-gr weights approaching Mach 3. More to come.

Old maximal SAAMI .458 WM 400-grain loads can be easily topped for MV with 450-grainers in the .458 WM+: I have a good supply of the TSX and old North Fork bullets in that weight. More to come.

Some 500-gr business first, as inspiration for .458 experimenters.


Ron aka "Rip" for Riflecrank Internationale Permanente
NRA Life Benefactor and Beneficiary
.458 Winchester Magnum, Magnanimous in Victory
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