LOL, i used 20 to 1 alloy with the little 45-70 and four 30 thou wad stack with nothing but Rooster jacket lube on the paper to duplicate the 461 Gibbs Selous/Seyfried rifle load, that big skinner at 20 to 1 would shoot through anything, what a fun test that was, and "Buy a Donkey" to you Sir Ron for issuing the challenge.
