Sir John,

Consider yourself tapped on the shoulders with the flat of a Bill Bagwell Bowie.
We'll all get ours when Sir Jerry officiates at the meeting of the Round Table,
hopefully to occur before we all get together in the Happy Hunting Ground.

I sure do have a liking for .458-400gr bullets.
The 400-gr TSX was supposedly only ever made as a special run for Buffalo Bore, lately.
I have yet to test fire Bubba's 400-gr XTSX.
Maybe I should get some Buffalo Bore ammo for a shoot-off.
Those are supposedly only loaded to 2250 fps MV in the SAAMI .458 WM.
Heck, we can do that with hardcast, PC-painted, gas-checked 407 grainers, and do it accurately, in the SAAMI .458 WM,
sized to .460" to .461" for the .458" to .459"-grooved common barrel.

I suggest trying Bubba's 400-gr XTSX atop both 83.0 grains of AA-2460 and 83.0 grains of AA-2230,
and compare that to however much H4895 can be loaded with a drop tube and compressed without bulging a case.
All with a COL of 3.600", in the .458 WM+.
The 400-gr Woodleigh PPSN can go faster than 2600 fps with a COL of 3.425", which is too fast for its 2500 fps limit.
No limits on the 400-gr XTSX.

Bubba Bore ammo versus Buffalo Bore ammo for the shoot-off.
Plus some cast bullets to rub salt in it too.

We also have yet to try the 485-grain hardcast FN favored by Sir Dennis at 1700 fps.
I'll do that too, including +/- 500 fps for a 1000 fps spread with that bullet, centering on 1700 fps.

So many choices for deer and varmints!
I am tempted to use that 250-gr Hornady Monoflex at 2725 fps with 65 grains of AA-5744,
since it shoots groups half the size of the ones at 3075 fps with 82 grains of H4198,
both loaded to 3.340" COL.
The SAAMI-chambered .458 Winchester Magnum with a 24" barrel is a very versatile rifle.


Ron aka "Rip" for Riflecrank Internationale Permanente
NRA Life Benefactor and Beneficiary
.458 Winchester Magnum, Magnanimous in Victory
THE WALKING DEAD does so remind me of Democrap voters. Donkeypox.