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OK, so the fancy bullets do not expand reliably below 1600 fps.
I did say pick your 400-grain poison as needed for the job at hand.
Remember Elmer Keith recommended a .45-70 lever action load with 400-gr FN cast lead at 1800 fps
for timber hunting of elk and such.
The TBPI of a 400-gr Lyman #457643 FN plain base FN at 1800 fps = 1.068 H&H units <<< 2670 pounds.
With a BC of whatever (G1 = 0.280 as claimed by Lyman), it would surely be able to handle something
like this bowhunted elk, arrowed by Sir Jerry's pal:



A hard cast lead FN of only 255 grains/.452-cal and 835 fps from a .45 LC is quite the penetrator.
Elmer's load will get the job done.
No expansion needed with a hardcast FN.