Dang, the weeds are sprouting here in Kentucky too !

Originally Posted by gunner500

... also happen to have a wonderful Paul Jones mould, it throws a 570gr AA Smerker grease groove bullet of 570 grains with 20/1 alloy, it the most accurate bullet i've ever fired from my 18 twist Shiloh 45-70, i should cast you some up, lubra-size em to 458" with Bills Black Majik lube and send em on up.


Buy a donkey for the offer, Sir Jerry, but I have the grooved bullets covered with 543-gr (Red Death) and 579-gr (Big Blue) FNGC hardcast, PC-painted, and sized to 0.461".

What would be interesting is to see you do some of your 570-gr paper-patched with BP in a .458 WM+.

I have a 530-gr slick to try with 20/1 alloy with paper patch, 5 grains of IMR-SR4759 and 85 grains of GOEX FFg, F215 or WLRM primer, one thin cardboard wad, and Rooster Lube on the patch.
About like .45-100-530 Sharps 2.6"
or a .461 Gibbs No. 1 or 2 Military Match load.
Selous did most of his Selousing with a 540-gr PP bullet and 75 to 90 gr of Curtis & Harvey.
Probably be able to shoot mine for 50 shots without wiping, eh ?

I did a test casting from my mould with gunshow-purchased "wheel weight" ingots.
The mould is the Accurate Molds 44-530P, supposed to be 530-gr in wheel weights.
I got a diameter 0.443" and a weight of 530.9 grains. BOL 1.373".
It will be interesting to see what they weigh in 20/1 alloy, probably really close to the WW in BHN, diameter, and weight.
Paper patching: 0.443" + 0.008" = 0.451" diameter in soft alloy.
Fingers crossed, that might work with a .458 WM with bore diameter of 0.450", but with the long throat, seated far out and plenty of room for the BP,
recalling that a BP load in the .45-70 Govt. is compressed close to a half-inch in a Saint Bagwell load with a 480-gr PH.
IIRC, the old .461 Gibbs No. 1 & No. 2 loads were not much if any compressed because the old thin brass necks buckled so easily.
The Gibbs shot very well without heavy compression.

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I know, because I skinned a mouse with mine once just to see if I could.
The knife worked just fine."

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