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Sir Jerry,
Note that the 450-gr CEB Safari Solid is a better option than the 400-grainer designed for lever actions.
The CEB brass 400-grainer wastes case capacity in both .45-70 and .458 WM,
and does not take advantage of the magazine length allowed by SAAMI COL.





.458 WM+ loads are impossible with the "funny-banded" CEB 400-gr brass FN.
The funny-banded 450-grainer with a longer nose will barely allow a COL of + 3.340".
The 450-gr CEB at +2350 fps with COL of 3.380" is very functional in the average .458 WM rifle.
The 450-gr CEB brass FN is about as good as it gets for a SAAMI .458 WM.
MIB terminals here:



The 400-grainer was tested at only .45-70 Gov't. equivalent velocities:





Note that the bullet stayed straight.
Some theoreticians say that the shortness of nose projection of the bullet may limit penetration when compared to longer nose projection ...
I will not accept that until it has been tried with low drag PDR bands of Hammer Bullets, on an FN solid.
I think even the CEB 400-grainer would score better at higher velocity.